Posts by Pete Zahut

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Who made it that way?

by nicolaou in

it's infuriating because it's so childish.

you can explain how a rainbow appears because sunlight is refracted under the right conditions but you'll get asked;.

"so who made those conditions that way?".

If you're walking under a coconut tree in the new system and a coconut lands on your head and crushes your skull, is this because Jehovah created gravity? Will you feel pain because Jehovah created nerve endings?

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Convention hypocrisy

by lastmanstanding in

mosaic law?.

jv chap.

17 pp.

Pete Zahut

In like manner, the conventions of Jehovah’s Witnesses in modern times center on spiritual interests.

My Brother attended a convention in a Latin American country last week and posted video showing they had entertainment with music, singing and dancing between the sessions and they were doing the wave up in the stadium and cheering just like the did back in Bible times.

Someone should check Nathan Knorr's grave to see if it's still level...he must be spinning down below.

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Repercussions over Whiskygate?

by eyeslice2 in

jw
friends

anyone any idea if there have been any repercussions over whiskygate and if anthony morris was ushered into the backroom after a meeting?

i am pretty sure if this had been a member of the r&f and the video was all over the internet, something would have been said about being careful not to bring jah's organization into disrepute.

i am sure the local elders in the congregation he is assigned to wouldn't have the balls to do it and there would have to be a mole pretty high up to find out if the gb got involved.. we can but speculate i guess..

Pete Zahut

He summoned himself to a hearing and granted himself a pardon then celebrated with a stiff belt.

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Anyone drop out of high school or not focus on grades becuase the end was near

by rockemsockem in

i dropped out with 3 months left to go of the 12th grade.

my uncle offed me a job and the end was only a few years away.

my mother even though she was dyed in the wool at the time said she would only go along with it if i took a correspondence course out of american correspondence school out of chicago.

Pete Zahut

I graduated high school in 1975 and I was the only one for several years prior and afterward, form the two congregations that used our Hall, to actually graduate. Even then...I graduated early in January and was in Bethel by April.

I was on the "honor roll" for 3 years and was given a citation but my parents didn't even attend the assembly where it was given to me. Nothing in this world was important. I often wonder what I could have done if I'd have been encouraged to excel in school and hadn't been told since childhood (and decades afterward) that the world was about to end.

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DIY Store encounter

by The Fall Guy in

when i walked into a large b&q diy store, a big guy in an orange overall came right up to me and said, "do you want decking?".

i thought i'd better get in first, so i punched him as hard as i could..

Pete Zahut

Well it's a good thing he didn't ask you if you needed a screw...who knows what might have happened !

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bullying

by Hendrixgrip in

jw
friends

i should preface my comments by pointing out that i have no aversion to being disfellowshipped.

i fully expect that to happen.

all of my immediate family and a great deal of my extended family have moved on with me and we all enjoy a full and satisfying life.

Pete Zahut

I find it ironic that she not only still talks to a former JW but is staying with one while she attends the assembly no less and yet she has the gall to treat you as if you're the one who is somehow missing out, not getting the point or seeing the big picture. If anyone there knew she was staying with you, they'd view her a a person to watch out for.

It's a one way street with JW's. If you don't play by their rules, they take their ball and go home. Imagine if you texted her and said..."Miss you...sure wish you weren't wasting your time at that assembly....do you mind if I talk to your kids about my bible views some time?

It would be all over, but for the shouting if you did that. You'll have to be patient with her and resist making any number of pointed comebacks that come to mind.

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My family

by lriddle80 in

i just wanted to get some feedback.

i don't want to go into the whole story, it's too long and it's been told by a lot of people here.

anyway, i think i am disfellowshipped or about to be.

Pete Zahut

Honestly, it's a "I am not dead!!!!" Kind of feeling.
I am railing against their cruelty in my mind. I am angry.

Of course you are....no one likes to be dismissed or marginalized especially by their family. However it seems to me the more narcissistic one is, the harder it is for them to cope with not being able to have their say, to weigh in with their opinion and to make their presence known. The narcissistic side of our personalities thinks that everything we do and say is much more important than it really is, that we deserve to be heard and that everyone should be keenly interested in us and what we have to say.

The more reasonable side of us knows this isn't so but we still wish it was. The more we demand from people in this regard, the less they'll cooperate.

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My family

by lriddle80 in

i just wanted to get some feedback.

i don't want to go into the whole story, it's too long and it's been told by a lot of people here.

anyway, i think i am disfellowshipped or about to be.

Pete Zahut

I am just worried she isn't really saved because the organization puts themselves in an elevated status.

I think I'd stop with the Jesus saves business. No one likes that....especially not a JW. If there in fact was a Jesus and he died for all mankind, it's a done deal...end of story, so you can relax...it's in his hands. As a JW she already believes that he existed and that he died for mankind salvation even if the two of understand the details differently....the big chunks and the outcome are the same in the end. I'd say you should leave her alone about this or you run the risk of alienating her even further. No one likes it when someone who thinks they have it made and knows everything about Jesus, tries to save them. It's as if you are saying that you've got it made and they're damned unless they see things your way.

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My family

by lriddle80 in

i just wanted to get some feedback.

i don't want to go into the whole story, it's too long and it's been told by a lot of people here.

anyway, i think i am disfellowshipped or about to be.

Pete Zahut

But my plan is to text my mom regularly, just talking about my life, not about how she should leave that crazy cult, but just as a daughter texting her mom. I am fully aware she won't text back and she hasn't. Do you all think it's a good idea?

Just a couple of things come to mind:

I'm not saying anythings wrong with your idea but I'm curious as to what your motive is for texting if you are certain of not getting a response? What are you hoping to accomplish? You seem quite sure about her blocking you. Even if it works it may make you look a little pathetic like a dog who keeps coming around after being repeatedly kicked and that somehow you have an overly strong need for Mommy's approval. Maybe she'll appreciate you more if you aren't so available for awhile. You could leave certain instagram or facebook posts open to the public so that you can give her a peek at your life's highlights should she happen to spy on you . You could even make them a little cryptic..."Tomorrow is going to be a life changing...wish me luck !!"

Another thought:

For some JW's all they care about is whether or not you are officially DF'd . If you can prevent that from happening, your mother might be one of those who is willing to skirt around the shunning business based on that technicality.

I've read on this forum about those who have obtained restraining orders that block the elders from communicating with them in any manner and have sent a letter to the elders that says that there will be legal action taken against them personally if they make any sort of public announcement about them. They sited defamation of character, harassment and violation of privacy as the basis of the charges that would be brought upon them.

Be sure and keep track of dates and times of phone calls, when letters came and any voice mails that they may have left.

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Walter F. Salter

by OrionLoki in

hello everyone, this is my first strictly historical theme:.

walter f. salter was the overseer of the branch office in canada in years 1918-1936. in 1936 he was dismissed from that function, and in 1937 he was disfellowshipped from the organization.. does anybody know his further history?

did he join any christian denomination?

Pete Zahut

Walter's Headstone:

Walter F. Salter

1918 - 1957

All He Asked For In Life Was A Fair Shake